Making Big Leaps Less Scary

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Making Big Leaps Less Scary

On this episode of Martinis and Your Money, I’m talking to Kathlyn Hart, a motivational speaker, coach, and host of the Big Leap Show, about taking big leaps in our careers. A leap of any size can be a scary thing for most of us, even though some of us are more inclined to take them than others. I’ve taken a few big leaps in my career, and I have to say that despite the ups and downs afterward, I wouldn’t change a single thing. I encourage you to listen to this show and get inspired to make a big leap of your own in 2017! Cheers!

As a side note: the first Financial Gym location has opened in New York City at 226 5th Avenue, 5th Floor. Please stop by and have a drink with us if you are in the area or check out The Financial Gym online for its tools and resources to help you break free from your financial challenges and live a financially healthier life! We’ll kick your assets into shape!

What are we drinking?

Kathlyn — a Moscow Mule

Shannon — a Vodka Tonic

Podcast Notes

  • Kathlyn spends most of her days working on her podcast and interviewing badass women in business.
  • Outside of her podcast, she does business consulting and website design.
  • Kathlyn says taking a leap and starting her business was the ultimate dream.
  • She wants people to know that every single person that makes something happen is scared but there is a way through the madness!
  • To take a big leap, you have to have something pulling you.
  • Kathlyn switched careers from working in non-profit to architecture – her childhood dream job.
  • She didn’t have the necessary skills for architecture so she tailored her resume to showcase how she could actually help the company and sent it to as many architecture and design places until she got a job.
  • Shannon tells a story about a previous client’s big leap and what she said to encourage her to take that leap.
  • Shannon and Kathlyn both agree that if you are going to make the big leap, don’t burn any bridges behind you.
  • Women tend to overthink more than men, and Shannon believes this is why men leap more often than women.
  • Kathlyn says if you think you want to take a leap, test it out first.
  • Shannon says if you feel like you need to make a move and take a leap, there is a reason for that – a lot of people don’t have that desire.
  • Kathlyn has interviewed almost 45 “leapers” for her podcast.
  • It took her 3+ years to record her first interview because of how nervous she was to take that leap.
  • Shannon agrees and says the Financial Gym was supposed to open 3 years earlier than it did.
  • Kathlyn has learned several major lessons from her big leap and the women she has interviewed for her podcast.
    • Taking a leap because you hate your job often leads to trouble down the road because success doesn’t happen over night.
  • TAKEAWAY: Practice leaping in smaller ways so that you can get more comfortable when a bigger leap may present itself to you! Either way I encourage you to leap!

Random Three Questions

  1. What is a book you’ve read that has inspired you?
  2. If you could live anywhere else in the country, where would you live and why?
  3. If you were to win a million dollars, what would you do with it?

Connect with Kathlyn:

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Shannon is a financial planner who left a “traditional” financial services firm to start her own company, The Financial Gym, because she felt traditional financial services firms did not have the tools or resources to help people in their 20s and 30s who are starting out and trying to build assets while also managing debt. She realized that the key to long-term personal financial success is a commitment to financial fitness and making smart financial choices. Through her blog, Financially Blonde, her book, Train Your Way To Financial Fitness, her podcast, Martinis and Your Money and The Financial Gym, Shannon is committed to making financial fitness fun, easy and accessible for everyone.


  1. Rich Dad. Poor Dad by Kiyosaki is really an inspirational book. It helped me overcome most of my financial challenges and equipped me with knowledge to use when faced with such.

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